I bought the 8210 4G thinking it would be a reliable, simple phone to use.I'm not smart enough for a smart phone, so thought this would do the job.The battery is a joke.If it is left on, without using it the batt. goes down by 50% in two days. I mean WT..?!For a dumb phone it is a very awkward layout.My 17 year old Samsung 3309 was a breeze, and a joy to use. I could upload photos to the computer no dramas...oh no, no with this baby we've got to spend $20 for a special wire thing to do it.Sorry Nokia, your people are "clever", but they not too smart, IMO?!